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Archive for August 23rd, 2009

YWAM vs. Integrity

Posted by rantsampersandmore on August 23, 2009

Integrity

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Integrity comprises perceived consistency of actions, values, methods, measures and principles. A value system‘s abstraction depth and range of applicable interaction are also significant factors due to their congruence with empirical observation. A value system may evolve over time while retaining integrity if those who espouse the values account for and resolve inconsistencies.

Integrity may be seen as the quality of having a sense of honesty and truthfulnessin regard to the motivations for one’s actions. The term hypocrisy is often used in contrast to integrity to assert that one part of a value system is demonstrably at odds with another, and to demand that the parties holding apparently conflicting values account for the discrepancy or change their beliefs to improve internal consistency.

YWAM is who and what it is… please see previous posts for a definition courtesy of Wikipedia.

YWAM Australia, nationally has been ‘busted’ for a severe lack of Integrity in relation to the “visa’s” that non-Australian YWAMers have used, to be allowed to stay in Australia, while engaged in volunteering with Youth With a Mission.

Many non-Australian YWAMers have been in Australia on an Australian Visa (Religious Worker Visa – subclass 428) see below for definition…          ***Disclaimer… some YWAM Centres in Australia may have been integral in all of their dealings with the Immigration Department, however several stand to loose up to a third of their ‘staff’ to this crackdown on incorrect visas.

Religious Worker Visa (subclass 428)

http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/special-activity/428/

This visa provides for the temporary stay of persons who will be full-time religious workers in Australia. Religious work is work of a religious nature for which the applicant has had relevant religious training. The religious work proposed must directly serve an organisation’s religious objectives. It would usually be religious work involved in: providing spiritual leadership, conducting worship, teaching or guidance in religion, ministering, pastoral care or proselytising or other high level specialist work in relation to the above.

Who is this visa for?

Religious workers from overseas who wish to work in Australia to directly service an organisation’s religious objectives. You must be sponsored by a religious organisation in Australia for this visa.

What does this visa let me do?

With this visa you can: work full-time for your sponsoring religious organisation stay in Australia for as long as your visa is valid, bring eligible family members with you.

There would NOT be a YWAMer in Australia (not even YWAM Leadership) be it an Australian or a non-Australian that would have a ‘job description’ that meets the requirements for this visa.      YWAMers are volunteer workers, generally un-educated (theologically), somewhat gifted but never-the-less have no ‘papers’ endorsing a ‘qualification’.

Why YWAM have not worked with the Local Church and/or developed ministries that could ‘legally’ have an overseas person ‘working’ on a Religious Worker Visa, is a question to ask!  ***See post “3 Notable Exclusions”

The so-called “Voice of the Lord” takes a lot of the rap, whereas if the YWAM  leadership ‘fessed up’ and actually admitted to it’s failings, then did something about ‘getting it right’… then they are in with a chance on actually hearing what God is saying about this situation.  

*** It is worthy of note that some two years ago (October 2007) that during a time of Base Intersession ( at a YWAM centre in Australia ) where all present went through the ‘Steps of Intersession’ that the resounding theme of that prayer time was – clear and direct ‘warnings’ that God was not happy with the lack of Integrity with regard to YWAM Australia and Immigration issues it was ‘fudging’.  ***This Prayer time was documented and was presented to Base leadership, for follow-up.

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The Australian Government / Immigration Department have discovered the inconsistencies and have now ruled against ‘some’ non-Australian YWAMers and have issued notices for them to exit the country.

We have several good friends who are affected by this ruling and we have in the last few days said our farewells. Although we are saddened at their leaving, we are glad that YWAM has been finally brought to account for this area where ‘integrity’ is absent.

Our friends and many like them, join the ranks of the Y’Whammed’

News Flash….. we have also learned recently that certain individuals with YWAMs consent / encouragement have written NEW ‘job descriptions’ that address each of the points required – armed with this they hope to re-apply for this particular visa.

Hopefully, the Department of Immigration in Australia will not be taken as fools and truth, integrity, righteousness, justice will prevail.

On a similar topic….    Without knowing the actual requirements of a ‘Student Visa’, I would hazard a guess that many ‘students’ coming to Australia to do a DTS, actually do not meet the criteria of a student visa. The ‘student’ may, but the ‘school’ probably doesn’t!!!   But, that is a whole other area of a lack of integrity – YWAM Australia and the schools it runs!

According to a Wikipedia definition…                                                    

The opposite to Integrity is Hypocrisy.

I am sure there will be further updates on this issue in the weeks and months ahead, our source for all things YWAM will be out-of-country for a while (if not forever) , so updates may be some time in coming.

Until then….

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DTS with YWAM – a Warning!

Posted by rantsampersandmore on August 23, 2009

A DTS or Discipleship Training School is the entry level course to YWAM (Youth With a Mission).

Should you be considering a DTS for yourself or your child, please please do your homework, both the good and BAD.

YWAM operates in many locations worldwide and each centre (Base) runs autonomously from another.

There is no doubt that some YWAM bases have great leadership and great programs that are impacting cultures and communities for good (and for God).

However, there are some places that YWAM is a mess and the leadership are extremely ‘authoritarian’ and are given to ‘spiritual abuse’.  * I have first hand experience of this in Australia.

Please research for yourself, before making a decision to join YWAM. There are many testimonies of people who are the ‘walking wounded’ after their exposure to YWAM.

Below are some worthwhile links that will aid your search.

http://chasingtruth.wordpress.com/2007/12/13/is-ywam-a-cult/#comments

http://www.rickross.com/

http://www.blogger.com/profile/02403419460985743533

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/youthwithamission.html

http://www.cults.co.nz/y.php

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Who / What is YWAM (Youth With a Mission)?

Posted by rantsampersandmore on August 23, 2009

In answer to the above question, we have copied and pasted the wikipedia response to a ‘YWAM’ search, as we believe an answer that is factual and un-biased, without ‘spin and propaganda’ will serve this blog better. We would encourage all, to check out the link provided below and follow all the associated links, to gain a well rounded ‘idea’ of the good, the bad and the ugly of YWAM.

Youth With A Mission (YWAM, generally pronounced as “why-wam”) is an international, inter-denominational, non-profit Christian missionary organization. Founded by Loren Cunninghamin 1960 to “know God and to make Him known,” YWAM now has operations in over 160 countries.[1][2]

Youth With A Mission has been active since 1960.[3][4]Originally using the model of sending youth on short-term trips to foreign locations, YWAM has expanded its day to day operations to Africa, Asia, Oceania, Europe and The Americas. In the nearly 50 years since its inception, YWAM’s activities have expanded from youth-focused short term trips to include educational training, church planting, business as mission, and relief and development services. Today, YWAM involves people of every age group.[5]

YWAM is now comprised of people from over 150 countries and a large number of Christian denominations, with over half of the organization’s staff coming from “non-western” countries.[6]YWAM currently has over 16,000 full-time volunteer workers in nearly 1,100 operating locations in 171 nations[citation needed] and trains 25,000 short-term missions volunteers annually.[7]Along with the positive experiences and positive impact which have been attributed to YWAM, the organization has been the subject of controversy and criticism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_With_A_Mission#Criticism_.26_Controversy

Youth With A Mission (YWAM)
Founder(s) Loren Cunningham
Type Evangelical Missions Agency
Founded 1960
Key people *John Dawson, International President
*Iain Muir, International Director
*Lynn Green, International Chairman
Area served 171 Countries
Employees 16,000 volunteers
Slogan To know God and to make Him known
Website www.ywam.org

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